Reading Aishat’s amazing blog a couple of weeks ago, “The Untold Story of a Shadow”, made me think. So I decided I would share this with any of you who may be either having trouble finding a physician to shadow or don’t know where to begin.
Now, I realize that my experience may not reflect the potential experience that others may achieve depending on geographic location and so forth, but about a month or so ago I was very worried about being able to find a physician to shadow. I figured MAYBE my family physician (who is a D.O.) might allow me to, but he is affiliated with a major hospital and they sometimes tend to have very strict rules regarding shadowing. But I eventually just said to myself, “Well, you don’t know if you don’t ask”. So the first thing I did was contact an orthopedic surgeon I knew from when I had a rotator cuff injury a couple of year ago (makes me an existing patient, so easier to ask him). Well after 3 weeks of calling (long story short, he is very busy) he finally told the woman I was speaking to to just set it up. Yay! I found a physician to shadow!
Well, I didn’t stop there. I started calling local hospitals to ask if they had any type of shadowing programs. Several said no, but I was finally able to find one that did. NYU Winthrop University Hospital, which is a very good hospital on Long Island. Granted I had to go through an extensive application process and clearances, submit MMR paperwork with titers as well as get an updated PPD test (almost still needed a flu shot as well, which I couldn’t find anywhere because of the season, but fortunately the New York State Board of Health finally declared flu season officially over only last week!). But after all this I have now been accepted into their program and will be shadowing a physician in the Emergency Room. The best part about this? Well:
1) This is not a regular shadowing program where I will stand in the corner out of the way trying to remain silent and inconspicuous watching the physician for hours on end and doing little to nothing. This program is designed for the student to be directly involved with working with the physician. As they put it, you are a liason of sorts, between the physician and the patient. I will have to attend an orientation this coming Saturday with a P.A. to learn how to use the computer system in the ER because I will most likely be dealing with transferring ordered lab tests and results back and forth to the physician, as well as other things. So that, to me, just makes the whole experience so much more awesome and amazing!
2) I also have an interest in Anesthesiology which I had mentioned to the chairman of the Emergency Department who set me up with this program (again only met him over the phone so far) and he said that although Anesthesiology tends to be busy and sometimes it may be hard to get me into the OR, that he may be able to get me to observe a few procedures such as intubations and such, which I enthusiastically thanked him for.
Now, aside from all this, my family physician is also affiliated with the same hospital. I had to see him anyway in order to get the PPD test done, so while I was there I mentioned shadowing to him. He agreed, but said that the process that is required is lengthy. I explained to him that I had already gone through it with this hospital and that I was cleared with them for 1 year. So now I have him to shadow in August as well (I have to leave the month of July open for summer school).
So my point of this whole long statement? Well, I started off trying to figure out how to even find 1 physician to allow me to shadow them, and in the end I wound up with three and potentially 4 physicians to shadow, consisting of 3 M.D’s and one D.O. at one of the best hospitals on Long Island. So if you are worried about how you are going to find someone to shadow, don’t be. Instead just realize that just like everything else we do as pre meds it will require time, work, patience and most of all persistence, but it will pay off in the end. You may even wind up with more than you even expected.
So good luck to everyone in your pre med studies and activities!
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William, this is great info and motivation for all. I find it particularly amazing b/c I’m on Long Island for the next 1+ year!! I am going to check out this hospital. Thank you!!!
7 years ago
I love this piece William! It really does complement Aishat‘s post well. Like you said, the key is you have to keep trying. There are a LOT of doctors out there who would be more than happy to have a premed shadow them. You need to find a way to get in direct contact with them. Great post!
7 years ago
Thank you very much Dr Dale. You’re compliment means a lot to me. I’m glad that I may have been able to light a path for some pre meds that may have been feeling like they were in a dark place when it comes to finding a physician to shadow. Nothing about being a pre med and fulfilling the requirements for acceptance into medical school is easy, but i feel perseverance, among other things, is the key.
7 years ago
William I found myself in a similar situation as well. I hope we will all remember how hard it was for us when we (hopefully) are in the position to be able to help out pre-meds!!
7 years ago
Helen I agree with you completely. I have already been contacted by another premed who goes to the same school I do, and I was able to help that person by giving them information to help them inquire about the same program I was able to be accepted into. So I think it’s awesome that I’m able to help!
7 years ago
Amazing blog post, William! It has lots of great insights and advice that could help us all on our individual journey. The persistence you have shown is remarkable. Thank you for sharing.
7 years ago
That is amazing, William!!
7 years ago
Thank you for this inspiration William. I’ve been cold calling for weeks now and 2 offices have followed up with me! I’m praying for a breakthrough or for plan B if plan A doesn’t work.
7 years ago
That’s awesome Tiana, you got this! Personally, I feel that the way to get through not only finding a physician to shadow, but this entire pre med process is confidence and persistence, never giving up. Never let discouragement or doubt creep up on you, because that stuff will consume you and inevitably keep you from your best which will keep you from achieving your dream. I for one am expecting this whole road to be difficult and expecting flat out rejection at times. It’s pretty much inevitable. Buy everyone wont reject me. Everything won’t be difficult. So I am already prepared mentally so when that does happen, I am ready to just brush myself off and move on, because I don’t have time to feel sorry for myself, I’m on the road to becoming a great physician.
7 years ago
Great post, William! I think persistence is key. I like how you took advantage after you were able to solidify one position and asked about other specialties. When one avenue opens, many more will come by sheer nature of asking. Kudos to you, brother. Keep up the good work! Dr. Dale and Dr. Daniel has built a great community via PreMed STAR and it’s a pleasure when students like yourself are spreading the wealth of knowledge that you experience through your journey. I have witnessed from afar your drive and you’ll make a great physician one day!
7 years ago
Thank you very much Milan!
7 years ago
I just wanted to let you know that I am super excited! I will be shadowing an orthopedic surgeon Tuesday and Thursday of next week. Thank you so much for the encouragement! I will continue to look for other clinicians, but this a great start!
7 years ago
Yay!!! Congratulations, Tiana
7 years ago
That is awesome Tiana! Just like you said, sure you have one, but now you can work on trying to experience other specialties also. Once you get that burst of confidence from getting that first one, it just gets easier to ask after that. You’ll do fantastic!
7 years ago
Thank you Aishat! Super excited lol #finally
7 years ago
Thank you William!
7 years ago